History Religion and Cretinists

Don’t trust anyone who uses the word “real”

It was during the usual baiting of Joe Cienkowski that he first mentioned “real science.” My heart sank at that point because I know exactly what people who put the word “real” in front of things mean.

Apart from being a science buff, I’m also a great lover of history, late Victorian, Tudor, middle ages, Egyptian, pretty much anything really. But the Second World War really interests me, and the final solution especially. From Nuremberg Laws to isolation in Nazi Germany society to Ghettos to extermination to the forced marches.

So when Joey said “real” in front of science, I automatically think of David Irving, the lying, distorting, manipulating, racist, anti-Semitic “historian” who practices “real history.”

The similarities in distortion, lies, frauds and pick and mix attitude to evidence is uncanny.

David Irving punts a know forgery of the Dresden bombing after being told it’s a fake.
Joe Cienkowski similiarly believes the Paluxy footprints after being told it’s a fake.

David Irving deigrates professional historians as frauds and liars.
Joe Cienkowski does the same to scientists.

David Irving twists the German language, using mechanical German dictionaries.
Joe Cienkowski twists definitions to suit his needs.

David Irving dismisses mountains of evidence for the holocaust because it doesn’t fit his racist agenda.
Joe Cienkowski dismisses mountains of evidence for evolution, abiogenesis, in fact anything to do with science because it doesn’t fit his dogmatic view of the world.

I could go on, and I probably will in the future.

The moral of this post is NEVER trust ANYONE who puts REAL in front of something. They’ll be bullshitting about something, somewhere.


I know Irving’s never known to exaggerate, but..

In an attempt to look more hard done by, Irving’s front page news story has change in a subtle way. Instead of “Arrested in Austria”, it now says “Arrested at gunpoint in Austria.”

A subtle yet more dramatic alteration.

I haven’t update my Teleport copy of his site in a month or so, but suspect it was done when the site was screwed (the technical term I believe) over the new year holidays. Bloody tragic it came back.


What is David Irving playing at?

How did he end up in an Austrian jail?

Well, that’s not so important. To me the question is “Why did he end up in an Austrian jail?”

There are two answers to this.

The first scenario is that David Irving thought he could get away with sneaking into a country that he was banned from, to give a lecture to some students. I don’t think anyone would take that chance willingly, and Irving, for all his faults isn’t stupid. It takes a certain amount of skill to skew documents and argue that they mean the opposite of what they say.

What is stupid is stating on his web site that he was going somewhere and leaving the place empty so has to disguise it. Surely he would have known that this meant he would be going somewhere he shouldn’t. Not exactly rocket science.

Naturally someone would have learned of the plans for his visit and alerted the authorities. Why not? I would have done it as well.

But how did he get into that situation?

The second option, and the one I personally think fits Irving like a glove.

David Irving, an outsider in the denial world since his disastrous loss in the high court against Professor Lipstadt, and desperately needs to get some credibility back. He sees his friends Zundel and Rudolf in prison and getting lots of publicity, so what could he do to draw more attention to himself? “Oh I know, ” thinks Irving. “I’ll go to Austria!”

Surely the inconvenience of a few weeks in jail is bearable for all the publicity he can get and start screaming about his “freedom of speech”, or gramophone he would say.

It’s like Irving is suffering for the cause, he’s in the same situation as Rudolf and Zundel, and so he must be like them? The stupid people who believe the “holohoax” think the same, and Irving is restored to his former self. Sadly.

Is it outside the realms of possibility that this was set up from the start?

No I don’t think so.

He’s a consummate attention seeker as has been shown throughout his “career”, so I wouldn’t put it past him to have set this up from the very start.

All I can say is “who cares?”


Another sob story from Irving!

Irving’s updated the index page with yet another sob story. It all sounds so great, but then read it again and you can see why he is loathed by so many.

“Mr Irving remains incarcerated [sure that was his fault for entering a country he was banned from entering] in a Viennese prison pending trial on February 20 for “offences” of a kind unknown in English law or truly democratic societies. [Once again Irving fails to mention what that law actually means, not what he thinks it means. It’s NOT a question of free speech.]”

“To date, Mr Irving – never idle ever diligent no matter adversity [and modest] – has hand-written 600 pages of memoirs, “Irving’s War” [Pompous twat. More aligning himself with his idol]. He has received “156 letters [wow! that many?] from anonymous [there’s a surprise] Austrians and Germans who are thinking what they are denied the freedom of speech to say” [rubbish, once again it’s NOT a question of free speech]. What kind of truth is so weak that it must imprison reasoning sceptics who dare to question it? [“reasoning” doesn’t apply to you Irving]”

“Professor Deborah Lipstadt the self-described “dragon-slayer” (though she refused to face the dragon/witness stand in 2000 in London’s High Court [bollocks! Professor Lipstadt was not needed to prove Irving was a liar, that was the historians job and a thorough job they did of it as well]) pleads: “Let him go and let him fade from everyone’s radar screens”.”

We live in hope, though rotting in an Austrian jail sounds just as good an alternative.


Irving arrested in Austria!

Fantastic news has spread through the internet. David Irving has been arrested in Austria!

With his past record of self-promotion by any means, we’re not to sure if this means the police being very efficient, or Irving is staging the whole thing just to put himself in the news AGAIN.

Who cares any way, we’ll now see his pleas for money from his remaining friends to fight his case, but we must all look on the bright side. He could be locked up for, and I haven’t stop laughing about this bit yet, 20 years. Oh, please stop, I’ve got a stitch from laughing.

“So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, goodbye…”


Irving ponders on subtleties of the weather that caused Hurricane Katrina

In today’s Action Report, he describes hurricane Katrina hitting New Orleans.

As per usual the reader waits for the anti-Semitic comment and it didn’t take long, although I was surprised in the context.

I am surprised incidentally that our traditional enemies do not object that only Aryan names are used for these disasters — why no Hurricane Isidore’s or Chaim’s?

What does it matters what they are called now, or who you can blame it on?